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Commodores in Wonder Woman 1984
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Robert Bernardo
2021-02-28 21:43:13 UTC
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The filmmaker(s) didn't even try to hide the labels! Commodores are definitely seen in medium shots of the new movie, Wonder Woman 1984. There appears to be a Commodore PET 8096SK, seen in the office of Barbara Minerva. That 8096SK is shown at least twice, because the movie comes back to her office at least twice. Later in the movie, a very squarish Commodore PET 8032 is seen running a spreadsheet program on its monitor.

Couldn't figure out what was running on the 8096SK,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group -
http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network -
http://www.portcommodore.com/sccan
Jason Evans
2021-03-01 08:25:17 UTC
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Post by Robert Bernardo
The filmmaker(s) didn't even try to hide the labels! Commodores are
definitely seen in medium shots of the new movie, Wonder Woman 1984.
There appears to be a Commodore PET 8096SK, seen in the office of
Barbara Minerva. That 8096SK is shown at least twice, because the movie
comes back to her office at least twice. Later in the movie, a very
squarish Commodore PET 8032 is seen running a spreadsheet program on its
monitor.
A C64 can even receive email with dialup internet that comes from
somewhere...if you're Vision.
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JE

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Andreas Kohlbach
2021-03-02 01:14:11 UTC
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Post by Jason Evans
A C64 can even receive email with dialup internet that comes from
somewhere...if you're Vision.
There is a video on Youtube dissecting that scene. Showing that images on
the C64 screen were fake (they also had no lit LED or a connecting cable
between the 1541 and the C64). Like between the light blue outer frame
there was a gap of half a character to the first line. In text mode that
isn't possible in the C64. I think there are only one or two pixels
padding between the frame and the first character, not four.
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Jason Evans
2021-03-02 06:54:05 UTC
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Post by Andreas Kohlbach
There is a video on Youtube dissecting that scene. Showing that images
on the C64 screen were fake (they also had no lit LED or a connecting
cable between the 1541 and the C64). Like between the light blue outer
frame there was a gap of half a character to the first line. In text
mode that isn't possible in the C64. I think there are only one or two
pixels padding between the frame and the first character, not four.
Of course it is, but then even in the context of the story it is fake
which leads to an interesting, but minor, plothole. How can fake
computers receive real email?
J. Clarke
2021-03-02 11:25:18 UTC
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On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 06:54:05 -0000 (UTC), Jason Evans
Post by Jason Evans
Post by Andreas Kohlbach
There is a video on Youtube dissecting that scene. Showing that images
on the C64 screen were fake (they also had no lit LED or a connecting
cable between the 1541 and the C64). Like between the light blue outer
frame there was a gap of half a character to the first line. In text
mode that isn't possible in the C64. I think there are only one or two
pixels padding between the frame and the first character, not four.
Of course it is, but then even in the context of the story it is fake
which leads to an interesting, but minor, plothole. How can fake
computers receive real email?
Often CRTs in movies are fake. Found that out helping a videographer
set up a shoot--turned out that there was a timing problem between the
sweep rate on the CRT and the frame rate on the camera so you ended up
with weirdness on screen. That particular time we solved it by using
a laptop with an LCD screen but in the more general case you would use
FX.

I believe that an exception would be the original Battlestar
Galactica, where Tektronix provided most of the display hardware shown
on screen and presumably was able to tweak things to work around that
issue.
Quadibloc
2021-03-02 16:00:59 UTC
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Post by J. Clarke
I believe that an exception would be the original Battlestar
Galactica, where Tektronix provided most of the display hardware shown
on screen and presumably was able to tweak things to work around that
issue.
It would have helped that a lot of Tektronix computer terminals used
storage tubes, and so refresh flicker would inherently be a non-issue.

John Savard
JimP
2021-03-02 16:19:08 UTC
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Post by Quadibloc
Post by J. Clarke
I believe that an exception would be the original Battlestar
Galactica, where Tektronix provided most of the display hardware shown
on screen and presumably was able to tweak things to work around that
issue.
It would have helped that a lot of Tektronix computer terminals used
storage tubes, and so refresh flicker would inherently be a non-issue.
John Savard
I asked about this years ago at university. I figured it was different
rates; the tv refresh rate and the camera scan rate. Kind of why wagon
wheels appeared to spin backwards in old movies. The wheel made less
than a full revolution then the film camera took the next picture in
the moving picture scene.
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Jim
Peter Flass
2021-03-02 17:19:55 UTC
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Post by Jason Evans
Post by Andreas Kohlbach
There is a video on Youtube dissecting that scene. Showing that images
on the C64 screen were fake (they also had no lit LED or a connecting
cable between the 1541 and the C64). Like between the light blue outer
frame there was a gap of half a character to the first line. In text
mode that isn't possible in the C64. I think there are only one or two
pixels padding between the frame and the first character, not four.
Of course it is, but then even in the context of the story it is fake
which leads to an interesting, but minor, plothole. How can fake
computers receive real email?
Why not? Real computers receive lots of fake email.
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Pete
Charlie Gibbs
2021-03-03 06:34:54 UTC
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Post by Peter Flass
Post by Jason Evans
Post by Andreas Kohlbach
There is a video on Youtube dissecting that scene. Showing that images
on the C64 screen were fake (they also had no lit LED or a connecting
cable between the 1541 and the C64). Like between the light blue outer
frame there was a gap of half a character to the first line. In text
mode that isn't possible in the C64. I think there are only one or two
pixels padding between the frame and the first character, not four.
Of course it is, but then even in the context of the story it is fake
which leads to an interesting, but minor, plothole. How can fake
computers receive real email?
Why not? Real computers receive lots of fake email.
I can receive real e-mail on a VM. Does that count as a fake computer?
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Daniel
2021-03-03 07:22:45 UTC
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Post by Peter Flass
Post by Jason Evans
Post by Andreas Kohlbach
There is a video on Youtube dissecting that scene. Showing that images
on the C64 screen were fake (they also had no lit LED or a connecting
cable between the 1541 and the C64). Like between the light blue outer
frame there was a gap of half a character to the first line. In text
mode that isn't possible in the C64. I think there are only one or two
pixels padding between the frame and the first character, not four.
Of course it is, but then even in the context of the story it is fake
which leads to an interesting, but minor, plothole. How can fake
computers receive real email?
Why not? Real computers receive lots of fake email.
Good one. Snickered at that.
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Daniel
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gareth evans
2021-03-01 11:18:23 UTC
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Post by Robert Bernardo
The filmmaker(s) didn't even try to hide the labels! Commodores are definitely seen in medium shots of the new movie, Wonder Woman 1984. There appears to be a Commodore PET 8096SK, seen in the office of Barbara Minerva. That 8096SK is shown at least twice, because the movie comes back to her office at least twice. Later in the movie, a very squarish Commodore PET 8032 is seen running a spreadsheet program on its monitor.
Couldn't figure out what was running on the 8096SK,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group -
http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network -
http://www.portcommodore.com/sccan
About 25 years ago, or thereabouts, I bethought me to start
collecting early domestic computers before they became rarer
than Roman relics (But I stopped when I realised that many
others were doing the same)

I ended up with, ISTR, 5 PETs, and also the associated
disk drives and printers, all for £20.

ie, when collecting, I'd offer a nominal £20 for
anthing and would walk away if a higher sum was sought.

What happened was that my wife used to work in a
hospital laboratory and when they were upgrading
from Commodore Pets to IBM PC machines, the Pets
were offered for sale, so I told my wife to
offer £20 for one of them, and back came the
message that my offer was insulting and they
were going to seek a commercial outfit to
take them.

Of course, nobody had the slightest interest
in any of them, and so I ended up with the
whole caboodle for my one £20! :-)

But just one Pet with its keyboard permanently
attached is unwieldy for the home environment
and so I passed them all on to a collector
of Commodores.

What was interesting about the Pets was their
origin in the time of minicomputers, and they
were built to the same mechanical standards,
with a metal frame inside the case, and a beefy
mains transformer.
Vir Campestris
2021-03-01 21:39:40 UTC
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Post by gareth evans
About 25 years ago, or thereabouts, I bethought me to start
collecting early domestic computers before they became rarer
than Roman relics (But I stopped when I realised that many
others were doing the same)
One of my regrets is not asking if I could have one of the mechanical
calculators that were gathering dust on the top of the cupboards in the
Bio labs.

Andy
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