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Cool Retro Term
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-06-13 08:14:42 UTC
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For those who have wondered what it was like to use an authentic CRT
terminal, particularly a crappy one, you could do worse than try this:
<https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term>.

Development seems to have stopped, but hey ...
Charlie Gibbs
2024-06-13 18:43:41 UTC
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Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
For those who have wondered what it was like to use an authentic CRT
<https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term>.
Development seems to have stopped, but hey ...
On the other hand, if you want the real thing, I have a working
Heath 19, complete with manuals and schematics, that I'm willing
to donate to a good home...
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D
2024-06-13 19:53:57 UTC
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Post by Charlie Gibbs
Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
For those who have wondered what it was like to use an authentic CRT
<https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term>.
Development seems to have stopped, but hey ...
On the other hand, if you want the real thing, I have a working
Heath 19, complete with manuals and schematics, that I'm willing
to donate to a good home...
What about https://computerhistory.org/? I visited once when work brought
me to town and it was absolutely amazing!
Bob Eager
2024-06-13 20:58:24 UTC
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Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
For those who have wondered what it was like to use an authentic CRT
<https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term>.
Development seems to have stopped, but hey ...
On the other hand, if you want the real thing, I have a working Heath
19, complete with manuals and schematics, that I'm willing to donate to
a good home...
I have three VT420s here. But I have also used Cool Retro Term. I am doing
a modified version with two 40 character screens as part of a historical
emulation project for a mainframe few have heard of.
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Scott Lurndal
2024-06-14 00:33:58 UTC
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Post by Bob Eager
Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
For those who have wondered what it was like to use an authentic CRT
<https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term>.
Development seems to have stopped, but hey ...
On the other hand, if you want the real thing, I have a working Heath
19, complete with manuals and schematics, that I'm willing to donate to
a good home...
I have three VT420s here. But I have also used Cool Retro Term. I am doing
a modified version with two 40 character screens as part of a historical
emulation project for a mainframe few have heard of.
I have a couple of working Unisys T-27 block mode terminals.
s***@ereborbbs.duckdns.org
2024-06-14 12:18:15 UTC
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Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
For those who have wondered what it was like to use an authentic CRT
<https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term>.
Development seems to have stopped, but hey ...
well, it mostly is a gimmick, although a good looking one
I was thinking of using it if I feel the need to make my desktop look
all hackerlike
Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-06-14 22:02:18 UTC
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Post by s***@ereborbbs.duckdns.org
I was thinking of using it if I feel the need to make my desktop look
all hackerlike
Speaking of which, there is a whole Reddit
<https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/> devoted to people making their
desktops look all hackerlike.

Windows users need not apply. ;)
Pluted Pup
2024-06-17 01:11:54 UTC
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Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
For those who have wondered what it was like to use an authentic CRT
<https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term>.
Misleading, I never used a terminal with such
extremely bad graphics as depicted. The terminals
with the PCXT are crisp clear green, not
blurry images set in green clouds. Linux
terminals don't look tiny, and DOS doesn't appear
blurry and cloudy either.

What this thing seems to be "emulating" is some
mockery of what text terminals CRT displays actually look like.
Like this is an image of what a GUI salesman would
show when showing what text terminals look like,
versus the GUI he's selling.
Charlie Gibbs
2024-06-17 03:37:49 UTC
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Post by Pluted Pup
Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
For those who have wondered what it was like to use an authentic CRT
<https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term>.
Misleading, I never used a terminal with such
extremely bad graphics as depicted. The terminals
with the PCXT are crisp clear green, not
blurry images set in green clouds. Linux
terminals don't look tiny, and DOS doesn't appear
blurry and cloudy either.
That depended on the hardware. CGA was fuzzy, but even
worse, it was slow. A good typist using a word processor
on an XT clone with CGA could stay a full word ahead
of the display. Monochrome monitors and adapters, on
the other hand, were razor sharp and lightning-fast.
When a PPOE got its first five XT clones, management
insisted on CGA because they were dazzled by the colour
graphics. Before long, they exchanged the CGA cards
and monitors for monochrome gear so the secretaries
could get some decent work done - except for the one
machine used by the engineers, who actually needed
the graphics.
--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | The Internet is like a big city:
\ / <***@kltpzyxm.invalid> | it has plenty of bright lights and
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | excitement, but also dark alleys
/ \ if you read it the right way. | down which the unwary get mugged.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-06-17 04:56:09 UTC
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When a PPOE got its first five XT clones, management insisted on CGA
because they were dazzled by the colour graphics. Before long, they
exchanged the CGA cards and monitors for monochrome gear so the
secretaries could get some decent work done - except for the one machine
used by the engineers, who actually needed the graphics.
Those were the days, when crisp text and colour graphics were either/or,
you couldn’t get both in one (without spending lots of money, anyway).
Remember IBM’s own PC monochrome display adaptor wouldn’t do graphics at
all? This left a gap in the market that Hercules was only too glad to
fill.

When I got a Macintosh II, it took a few more months, but I also got the
legendary Apple 13” (later relabelled ‘14”’, measured the same way every
other company was doing it) colour monitor. This was described as the
first colour monitor that was so good, you could use it in monochrome and
not notice it could do colour.

This was built around a Sony Trinitron CRT, which had the cylindrical
cross-section rather than the more usual spherical one for CRTs. This
reduced reflections from overhead office lighting. Some people gleefully
pointed out the little wire that ran across the screen about a third of
the way up (or down), to stabilize the shadow mask, as some kind of
imperfection; it never really bothered me.

And then Zenith went one better, with its “FTM” (“Flat Tension Mask”),
which I think was the first truly flat CRT. I never used one, but I read
reviews that said it gave the illusion of being concave rather than flat,
perhaps because people were so used to convex screens at the time.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-06-17 04:57:06 UTC
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Misleading, I never used a terminal with such extremely bad graphics as
depicted.
Others did.
Kyonshi
2024-06-18 07:19:04 UTC
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Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
For those who have wondered what it was like to use an authentic CRT
<https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term>.
Development seems to have stopped, but hey ...
I think it's a bit too gimmicky, although it works as a nice toy to make
your desktop setup look all hackerish if you put the settings down to
somewhat less.

although, one might also just use a normal terminal with some opaque
effects (I use lxterminal) and it most likely doesn't cause quite as
much eye strain.

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