Posted by eternal-september

[D]

http://www.eternal-september.org/

(using Tor Browser 13.5.3)
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=eternal-september.org

eternal-september.org
A private project providing free access to text-only newsgroups. SSL
encryption and a web gateway based on the open source NewsPortal
software, as well as UUCP batches on demand are offered.

[end quote]

very popular free newsserver, not tor-friendly, requires login, but the
very name of the server & nom de guerre of the sysadmin have provenance . . .

the first occurrence of the phrase "eternal september" is attributed to
john william chambless <***@whale.st.usm.edu> in a usenet article
posted wednesday 9 february 1994 00:23:47 UT to "alt.folklore.computers"
under the namesake subject header "the eternal september", which begins:
"here we go again... isn't it lovely that usenet isn't just the 'toy of
the intellectual elite' anymore?" . . . the author of this famous title
(b. 10 april 1959, gulfport) is apparently still living but considering
the unintended "never ending" meme which became the trademark of usenet,
has probably heard more about this quip than anyone could possibly need
(although commercial usenet providers might owe this guy some royalties)

"Motzarella -> Eternal-September" (2009)

(using Tor Browser 13.5.3)
https://web.archive.org/web/20090725122840/http://www.eternal-september.org/

Welcome to news.eternal-september.org
...
2009-07-01 04:54:04 Motzarella servers shut down
As of today, Motzarella.org servers have been replaced by
eternal-september.org servers.
2009-06-30 20:52:37 feeder.motzarella.org has been terminated
All peers who haven't switched to feeder.eternal-september.org yet,
please do so anytime now.
2009-06-29 09:53:00 [Update] Eternal-September online again
Eternal-September is back online ----------------------------------
------------------------------------------ Eternal-September failed
last night with file system error that is currently being analyzed
and will remain offline until 2:00 p.m. CEST. Motzarella servers are
fully operational.
2009-06-16 09:18:55 Motzarella -> Eternal-September
For various technical reasons the Motzarella reader servers
news.motzarella.org, reader80.motzarella.org and
reader443.motzarella.org
news.eternal-september.org reader80.eternal-september.org and
reader443.eternal-september.org
To make the transition as smooth as possible, the
*.eternal-september.org servers are available as of today.
All accounts will remain valid, as well as all registered FQDNs in
the motzarella.org and eternal-september.org domains
2009-05-02 20:59:35 Number of connects per day limited
The number of connections per day and per user has been limited to
1200.
2009-02-03 10:06:35 NNTP access on port 80
NNTP access on port 80 has been moved to the host name
reader80.motzarella.org for technical reasons.

[end quoted plain text]

(using Tor Browser 13.5.3)
https://web.archive.org/web/20061010183828/http://news.motzarella.org/en/index.php

motzarella Usenet News
Server status for Motzarella News servers
Server NNTP Port 119 NNTPS Port 563 Login(LDAP)
news.motzarella.org
news2.motzarella.org
Cleanfeed
Welcome to news.motzarella.org
news.motzarella.org is a private project providing free access to Usenet
News. The server has a 100MBit connection to several Internet backbones
and is integrated into the Usenet via more than 20 peers.
Free access to the news server
news.motzarella.org provides free read and write access to all
newsgroups. It requires a registration that can be done online.
Please read the terms of use before you register.
Hierarchies and Groups
Apart from de.* (including de.alt.dateien.*) news.motzarella.org carries
the Big 8, alt.* (approx. 9000 groups) and several regional hierarchies
(more than 200). A list of available hierarchies can be found here.
For tests, information and support for users of news.motzarella.org the
local hierarchy motzarella.* is open to unregistered users, too.
The local hierarchy posenet.* is also open to unregistered user for
reading and posting.
Peering with news.motzarella.org
news.motzarella.org is looking for additional peers.
Prerequisites: static IP address, availability 24/7
Motzarella.org welcomes news servers looking for their first peering.
UUCP batches
news.motzarella.org offers UUCP Batches on demand.
news.motzarella.org submits path information to the TOP1000 project
daily

(using Tor Browser 13.5.3)
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ted+benoit

...
https://en.wikipedia.org
Ted Benoit
Thierry "Ted" Benoit (25 July 1947 – 30 September 2016) was a French
comic artist, graphic novelist and prominent figure in the stylish
Franco-Belgian ligne claire comics scene in the 1980s. His influences
included Edgar P. Jacobs, Moebius, Robert Crumb and to a lesser extend
Jacques Tardi.[1]
Among his works from the 1980s are Bingo Bongo et son Combo Congolais,
a series about aspiring novelist Bingo B. Bongo and his travails; and
Ray Banana, a film noir pastiche. Some of these were published in
English in Heavy Metal.
Benoit illustrated two books in the Blake and Mortimer series, both
written by Jean Van Hamme: The Francis Blake Affair, 1996; and The
Strange Encounter, 2001. Benoit died on 30 September 2016 at the age
of 69.[2][3]
https://www.tcj.com/he-walked-the-line-thierry-ted-benoit-1947-2016/
https://www.2dgalleries.com/art/ted-benoit-ray-banana-159463?lang=en
https://www.2dgalleries.com/ted-benoit/comic-art/814

https://www.2dgalleries.com/ted-benoit/comic-art/814?timespan=4&order=1&catid=2&typeofart=all&offset=12

...

http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=contact&language=en

Wolfgang M. Weyand <wolfgang(at)eternal-september.org>
Address
Berliner Strasse 26
D-61348 Bad Homburg v.d.H.
ICQ 335794777

https://web.archive.org/web/20061010192134/http://news.motzarella.org/en/contact.php

Address
Berliner Strasse 26
D-61348 Bad Homburg v.d.H.
ICQ 335794777

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=berliner+strasse+26+d-61348+bad+homburg

...

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[Lars Poulsen]

Post by D
very popular free newsserver, not tor-friendly, requires login, but the
very name of the server & nom de guerre of the sysadmin have provenance . . .

I haven't seen ANY traffic in alt.folklore.computers since this (6 days
ago). Is it a problem with eternal-september, or is this group dying?

[D]

Post by Lars Poulsen

Post by D
very popular free newsserver, not tor-friendly, requires login, but the
very name of the server & nom de guerre of the sysadmin have provenance . . .

I haven't seen ANY traffic in alt.folklore.computers since this (6 days
ago). Is it a problem with eternal-september, or is this group dying?

hmm... this popular long-retention newsserver "news.blueworldhosting.com"
shows nearly four-hundred thousand articles in the past twenty-one years:

alt.folklore.* articles oldest* newest
alt.folklore.computers 394965 02/09/2003 09/21/2024
*12/09/1990 <- oldest archived

with over two hundred (209) of those within the past three weeks, since 1
september 2024, and above two thousand (2067) since monday 1 january 2024;
but i'm using 40tude dialog 2.0.15.41 . . . could be e-s or t-bird client?
might try other free newsservers and/or another newsreader, some examples . . .

read-only test (in Tor Browser 13.5.4), last tested (9/7/2024):
http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=paganini.bofh.team&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Lars Poulsen
Server: paganini.bofh.team (48697)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=freenews.netfront.net&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Lars Poulsen
Server: freenews.netfront.net (47477)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.samoylyk.net&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Lars Poulsen
Server: news.samoylyk.net (45917)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.dizum.net&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Lars Poulsen
Server: news.dizum.net (45732)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.alphared.net&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Lars Poulsen
Server: news.alphared.net (45732)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.blueworldhosting.com&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Lars Poulsen
Server: news.blueworldhosting.com (45063)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.novabbs.org&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Lars Poulsen
Server: news.i2pn2.org (42792)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.mixmin.net&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Lars Poulsen
Server: news.novabbs.org (42759)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.i2pn2.org&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Lars Poulsen
Server: news.mixmin.net (41848)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.alt119.net&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Lars Poulsen
Server: news.alt119.net (40509)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.usenet.ovh&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Lars Poulsen
Server: news.usenet.ovh (15331)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.chmurka.net&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Lars Poulsen
Server: news.chmurka.net (3753)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.grc.com&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Lars Poulsen
Server: news.grc.com (39)

http://put.hk/reader.jsp?server=news.eternal-september.org&btnsubmit=Go

Post by Lars Poulsen
Server: news.eternal-september.org (11) *requires login, tor disabled

there are other free news servers, some of which are known to work
with tor/ssl/port563, albeit posting may not work with/without tor;
many free newsservers store articles for only about one year, some
even less, but others have longer retention, so the best way is to
test them; add as many servers as you like, and get complete group
list for each; at this writing news.alt119.net, paganini.bofh.team,
news.usenet.ovh, freenews.netfront.net, news.novabbs.org, and some
others (see news:alt.free.newsservers) should be added to the list;
pick one popular newsgroup and download all headers on each server
for comparison; the server i've been using regularly on "localhost"
has less than one year of article retention, but connects securely
via omnimix and using tor browser, socks 5, implicit ssl, port 563

(using Tor Browser 13.5.4)
http://usenet-fr.yakakwatik.org/newsreaders.html

Post by Lars Poulsen
1.Introduction
2.Newsreaders
40Tude Dialog (Windows)
Betterbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Claws-Mail (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Evolution (Linux)
flnews (Linux, UNIX systems)
Gnus (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Gravity (Windows)
MacCafe (macOS)
MacSOUP (macOS = 10.14)
MesNews (Windows)
ModNewsreader (Android and its forks)
Pan (Linux)
SeaMonkey (Linux / Windows / macOS)
slrn (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Sylpheed (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Thunderbird (Linux / Windows / macOS)
tin (Linux / Windows / macOS)
Xnews (Windows)
3.References and useful links

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[R Daneel Olivaw]

Post by D
hmm... this popular long-retention newsserver "news.blueworldhosting.com"
alt.folklore.* articles oldest* newest
alt.folklore.computers 394965 02/09/2003 09/21/2024
*12/09/1990 <- oldest archived

How many of those almost-395000 articles were Thai-language spam entered
via Google Gropes in the months around the end of 2023 - start of 2024?

[Stefan Ram]

Post by R Daneel Olivaw
How many of those almost-395000 articles were Thai-language spam entered
via Google Gropes in the months around the end of 2023 - start of 2024?

So, I whipped up this little Python script, and it's spitting out
these numbers:


1990 1
1992 2
1993 18
1994 15
1995 15
2000 3
2001 1
2002 5
2003 15231
2004 30633
2005 27226
2006 26149
2007 35609
2008 31007
2009 20524
2010 16071
2011 26193
2012 23437
2013 30208
2014 25582
2015 15824
2016 19152
2017 15475
2018 12395
2019 6022
2020 7137
2021 4153
2022 3357
2023 1453
2024 1694 (up until the mid of the year, approximately)

. Looks like we were not exactly drowning in Thai spam around
those days. But hey, I threw this code together faster than
you can say "In-N-Out Burger", so take it with a grain of salt!

For a comparison, here are my stats for "de.test":

2016 11480
2017 9490
2018 5748
2019 4541
2020 4514
2021 5885
2022 3658
2023 1451931

. Now, /that's/ what I call "Thai spam"!

[R Daneel Olivaw]

Post by Stefan Ram

Post by R Daneel Olivaw
How many of those almost-395000 articles were Thai-language spam entered
via Google Gropes in the months around the end of 2023 - start of 2024?

So, I whipped up this little Python script, and it's spitting out
1990 1
1992 2
1993 18
1994 15
1995 15
2000 3
2001 1
2002 5
2003 15231
2004 30633
2005 27226
2006 26149
2007 35609
2008 31007
2009 20524
2010 16071
2011 26193
2012 23437
2013 30208
2014 25582
2015 15824
2016 19152
2017 15475
2018 12395
2019 6022
2020 7137
2021 4153
2022 3357
2023 1453
2024 1694 (up until the mid of the year, approximately)
. Looks like we were not exactly drowning in Thai spam around
those days. But hey, I threw this code together faster than
you can say "In-N-Out Burger", so take it with a grain of salt!
2016 11480
2017 9490
2018 5748
2019 4541
2020 4514
2021 5885
2022 3658
2023 1451931
. Now, /that's/ what I call "Thai spam"!

Just for giggles, you could take a look at some of the comp.lang groups,
.cobol, .fortran and .c for instance.
Thank you Google for finally stopping the flood of effluent you had
previously enabled - several other Newsserver admins were talking about
not accepting anything input via GG - but shame on you for not accepting
articles from other news servers after that date.
A search engine refusing to accept valid data? Shame on you.

[Stefan Ram]

Post by R Daneel Olivaw
Just for giggles, you could take a look at some of the comp.lang groups,
.cobol, .fortran and .c for instance.

I did take a look at .c, but, unfortunately, I am not able to
immediately create stats for those other two groups. So here
are just my .c stats from January:

The stats are based on data from the years between 2012 and 2022,
approximately.. Some posts have not be taken into account for the
following stats, eg., when they are missing on the server because
they were cancelled or expired. OTOH, spam messages are also counted.

Posts per year

2012 14092
2013 8926
2014 16383
2015 23411
2016 21078
2017 24089
2018 14170
2019 9235
2020 9341
2021 6093
2022 4450

Some From names that did not post in 2012 or 2013 and then appeared.

2014-01-20 Rick C. Hodgin
2014-07-08 Richard Heathfield
2015-04-02 jacobnavia
2015-12-12 Jerry Stuckle
2016-09-14 Thiago Adams
2017-02-21 Steve Carroll
2017-03-27 bartc
2018-06-04 Bart
2020-08-30 olcott

Some From names (case sensitive) that disappeared (have not posted
anything for months)

2012-12-05 Jens Gustedt

(Jens, of course, is the author of "Modern C".)

2015-11-07 Bartc
2015-12-11 glen herrmannsfeldt
2016-06-07 Stephen Sprunk
2018-02-01 Jerry Stuckle
2018-05-28 bartc
2018-06-21 Steve Carroll
2018-07-05 ***@casperkitty.com
2018-09-20 BartC
2018-10-29 Bill Cunningham
2019-03-01 Richard Heathfield
2020-02-25 Robert Wessel
2020-06-18 Mr. Man-wai Chang
2020-06-29 Richard Bos
2020-10-02 jacob navia

(Jacob, of course, created LCC-Win32.)

2021-06-02 Rick C. Hodgin
2021-06-12 jacobnavia
2021-11-23 Ian Collins

From names by the number of posts

Keith Thompson 10922
David Brown 8514
Ben Bacarisse 8336
fir 6576
Malcolm McLean 6351
James Kuyper 6010
Rick C. Hodgin 5312
Tim Rentsch 5183
BartC 4208
***@casperkitty.com 4169

From names by the number of lines written by them

David Brown 145573
Keith Thompson 99176
Rick C. Hodgin 83966
Ben Bacarisse 80379
James Kuyper 74212
***@casperkitty.com 66411
Tim Rentsch 61761
Bart 55293
Malcolm McLean 53193
BartC 49164

Selected words from the bodies

C 42918
code 37777
think 25599
compiler 19587
function 18786
type 17642
language 17191
program 15679
standard 13896
value 13633
problem 13468
pointer 11321
functions 10021
C++ 9595
types 9531
number 9288
data 9281
memory 9114
implementation 9050
call 8831
compilers 8203
source 8091
written 8088
idea 7701
gcc 7631
question 7518
error 7351
values 7337
programming 6883
behavior 6761
library 6621
writing 6574
run 6563
pointers 6336
correct 6335
programs 6246
systems 5966
languages 5957
bits 5775
integer 5706
files 5547
syntax 5288
definition 5180
machine 5122
undefined 5039
issue 5019
char 5009
big 4984
variable 4978
address 4943
unsigned 4938
Windows 4918
struct 4787
expression 4757
output 4652
text 4622
space 4552
argument 4504
#include 4498
character 4405
Linux 4392
implementations 4362
names 4346
programmer 4139
loop 4077
statement 3999
bytes 3899
thread 3859
characters 3823
numbers 3819
user 3730
software 3727
feature 3714
solution 3708
programmers 3696
calls 3676
variables 3661
valid 3658
structure 3604
process 3590
static 3576
C99 3519
Standard 3518
macro 3431
stdio 3407
words 3393
declaration 3373
objects 3361
build 3348
zero 3322
hardware 3243
header 3233
stack 3233
implement 3220
operator 3218
errors 3200
tools 3165
arguments 3110
constant 3098
project 3084
handle 3081
faster 3077
binary 3016
gets 2974
learn 2952
signed 2941
macros 2877
block 2825
copy 2755
operations 2741
length 2741
portable 2711
strings 2696
byte 2657
16 2639
options 2627
32-bit 2622
const 2592
versions 2575
requirements 2551
libraries 2534
parameter 2527
environment 2513
standards 2506
implemented 2496
assembly 2484
declarations 2480
comments 2460
cast 2458
compiled 2455
representation 2444
expressions 2429
arithmetic 2427
calling 2411
style 2410
users 2377
application 2367
effects 2366
instructions 2349
conforming 2346
64-bit 2331
declared 2308
storage 2302
machines 2300
typedef 2295
platform 2285
returns 2282
development 2254
void 2238
interface 2231
64 2190
sequence 2183
parameters 2182
embedded 2179
overflow 2152
element 2149
practice 2148
buffer 2138
coding 2122
speed 2113
algorithm 2112
headers 2068
statements 2038
#define 2014
fix 2009
tool 2000
platforms 2000
allocated 1951
included 1950
documentation 1940
C's 1937
semantics 1931
usage 1857
floating 1847
C90 1846
pointed 1808
instruction 1806
definitions 1804
register 1800
concept 1798
places 1795
switch 1789
assignment 1781
warnings 1778
execution 1775
includes 1772
print 1737
magic 1719
sizes 1715

[D]

Post by Stefan Ram

Post by R Daneel Olivaw
Just for giggles, you could take a look at some of the comp.lang groups,
.cobol, .fortran and .c for instance.

I did take a look at .c, but, unfortunately, I am not able to
immediately create stats for those other two groups. So here
The stats are based on data from the years between 2012 and 2022,
approximately.. Some posts have not be taken into account for the
following stats, eg., when they are missing on the server because
they were cancelled or expired. OTOH, spam messages are also counted.
Posts per year
2012 14092
2013 8926
2014 16383
2015 23411
2016 21078
2017 24089
2018 14170
2019 9235
2020 9341
2021 6093
2022 4450
Some From names that did not post in 2012 or 2013 and then appeared.
2014-01-20 Rick C. Hodgin
2014-07-08 Richard Heathfield
2015-04-02 jacobnavia
2015-12-12 Jerry Stuckle
2016-09-14 Thiago Adams
2017-02-21 Steve Carroll
2017-03-27 bartc
2018-06-04 Bart
2020-08-30 olcott
Some From names (case sensitive) that disappeared (have not posted
anything for months)
2012-12-05 Jens Gustedt
(Jens, of course, is the author of "Modern C".)
2015-11-07 Bartc
2015-12-11 glen herrmannsfeldt
2016-06-07 Stephen Sprunk
2018-02-01 Jerry Stuckle
2018-05-28 bartc
2018-06-21 Steve Carroll
2018-09-20 BartC
2018-10-29 Bill Cunningham
2019-03-01 Richard Heathfield
2020-02-25 Robert Wessel
2020-06-18 Mr. Man-wai Chang
2020-06-29 Richard Bos
2020-10-02 jacob navia
(Jacob, of course, created LCC-Win32.)
2021-06-02 Rick C. Hodgin
2021-06-12 jacobnavia
2021-11-23 Ian Collins
From names by the number of posts
Keith Thompson 10922
David Brown 8514
Ben Bacarisse 8336
fir 6576
Malcolm McLean 6351
James Kuyper 6010
Rick C. Hodgin 5312
Tim Rentsch 5183
BartC 4208
From names by the number of lines written by them
David Brown 145573
Keith Thompson 99176
Rick C. Hodgin 83966
Ben Bacarisse 80379
James Kuyper 74212
Tim Rentsch 61761
Bart 55293
Malcolm McLean 53193
BartC 49164
Selected words from the bodies
C 42918
code 37777
think 25599
compiler 19587
function 18786
type 17642
language 17191
program 15679
standard 13896
value 13633
problem 13468
pointer 11321
functions 10021
C++ 9595
types 9531
number 9288
data 9281
memory 9114
implementation 9050
call 8831
compilers 8203
source 8091
written 8088
idea 7701
gcc 7631
question 7518
error 7351
values 7337
programming 6883
behavior 6761
library 6621
writing 6574
run 6563
pointers 6336
correct 6335
programs 6246
systems 5966
languages 5957
bits 5775
integer 5706
files 5547
syntax 5288
definition 5180
machine 5122
undefined 5039
issue 5019
char 5009
big 4984
variable 4978
address 4943
unsigned 4938
Windows 4918
struct 4787
expression 4757
output 4652
text 4622
space 4552
argument 4504
#include 4498
character 4405
Linux 4392
implementations 4362
names 4346
programmer 4139
loop 4077
statement 3999
bytes 3899
thread 3859
characters 3823
numbers 3819
user 3730
software 3727
feature 3714
solution 3708
programmers 3696
calls 3676
variables 3661
valid 3658
structure 3604
process 3590
static 3576
C99 3519
Standard 3518
macro 3431
stdio 3407
words 3393
declaration 3373
objects 3361
build 3348
zero 3322
hardware 3243
header 3233
stack 3233
implement 3220
operator 3218
errors 3200
tools 3165
arguments 3110
constant 3098
project 3084
handle 3081
faster 3077
binary 3016
gets 2974
learn 2952
signed 2941
macros 2877
block 2825
copy 2755
operations 2741
length 2741
portable 2711
strings 2696
byte 2657
16 2639
options 2627
32-bit 2622
const 2592
versions 2575
requirements 2551
libraries 2534
parameter 2527
environment 2513
standards 2506
implemented 2496
assembly 2484
declarations 2480
comments 2460
cast 2458
compiled 2455
representation 2444
expressions 2429
arithmetic 2427
calling 2411
style 2410
users 2377
application 2367
effects 2366
instructions 2349
conforming 2346
64-bit 2331
declared 2308
storage 2302
machines 2300
typedef 2295
platform 2285
returns 2282
development 2254
void 2238
interface 2231
64 2190
sequence 2183
parameters 2182
embedded 2179
overflow 2152
element 2149
practice 2148
buffer 2138
coding 2122
speed 2113
algorithm 2112
headers 2068
statements 2038
#define 2014
fix 2009
tool 2000
platforms 2000
allocated 1951
included 1950
documentation 1940
C's 1937
semantics 1931
usage 1857
floating 1847
C90 1846
pointed 1808
instruction 1806
definitions 1804
register 1800
concept 1798
places 1795
switch 1789
assignment 1781
warnings 1778
execution 1775
includes 1772
print 1737
magic 1719
sizes 1715

probably among the most prolific troll farm characters in usenet history,
e.g. "heartdoc andrew", "peeler", "quack andrew b. chung" <newsdemon.com>
ad nauseam (there are obviously thousands of usenet troll farm "regulars"
that have occupied every busy newsgroup since before noah built the ark),
so their total numbers must be in the many millions and expanding daily;

sysadmins have discussed counter-spam measures in other newsgroups, e.g.
news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,news.admin.peering,news.software.nntp, etc.,
but the subject of mass cross-posting and troll floods seems "taboo" for
some reason? surely, all the googlespam in the world pales by comparison

[D]

Post by R Daneel Olivaw

Post by D
hmm... this popular long-retention newsserver "news.blueworldhosting.com"
alt.folklore.* articles oldest* newest
alt.folklore.computers 394965 02/09/2003 09/21/2024
*12/09/1990 <- oldest archived

How many of those almost-395000 articles were Thai-language spam entered
via Google Gropes in the months around the end of 2023 - start of 2024?

hmm... using these scoring rules:
=-9999 Message-ID: "googlegroups"
=-9998 References: "googlegroups"

news:alt.folklore.computers total oldest newest
message-id = googlegroups 31732 10/08/2004 02/21/2024
references = googlegroups 88212 10/09/2004 04/30/2024
both = googlegroups 119994

mostly spam and troll clutter, but only a few actual "thai spams";

Post by R Daneel Olivaw
Subject: <thai spam>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security.virus
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 07:08:15 -0800 (PST)
Injection-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 15:08:15 +0000

[D]

Post by R Daneel Olivaw

Post by D
hmm... this popular long-retention newsserver "news.blueworldhosting.com"
alt.folklore.* articles oldest* newest
alt.folklore.computers 394965 02/09/2003 09/21/2024
*12/09/1990 <- oldest archived

How many of those almost-395000 articles were Thai-language spam entered
via Google Gropes in the months around the end of 2023 - start of 2024?

p.s. it occurred to me that the "blueworldhosting" system administrator
(<***@blueworldhosting.com>) may have expunged some significant
portion of googlespam from their burgeoning article spool, so "thai spam"
could have been far worse, many tens of thousands wouldn't be surprising
in any newsgroup or on any news server that hadn't depeered googlegroups

[Andy Burns]

Post by Lars Poulsen
I haven't seen ANY traffic in alt.folklore.computers since this (6 days
ago).

I don't know if E-S is to blame but, as seen from NIN, you've missed 23
posts in the "rise and fall" thread and one in the "monster sgi" thread.

[Kerr-Mudd, John]

On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 07:39:50 +0100

Post by Andy Burns

Post by Lars Poulsen
I haven't seen ANY traffic in alt.folklore.computers since this (6 days
ago).

I don't know if E-S is to blame but, as seen from NIN, you've missed 23
posts in the "rise and fall" thread and one in the "monster sgi" thread.

Weird; my ES feed shows 21 in the last 7 days (excluding this thread) - all
Rise & Fall

(But nothing from 17th -21 = Wed Thu Fri) I just assumed things were quiet.

[John Dallman]

Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
(But nothing from 17th -21 = Wed Thu Fri) I just assumed things were quiet.

I get this group from Eternal September, and got four messages on the
17th, one on each of the 18th and 19th, and none on the 20th.

John

[Kerr-Mudd, John]

On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 12:30 +0100 (BST)

Post by John Dallman

Post by Kerr-Mudd, John
(But nothing from 17th -21 = Wed Thu Fri) I just assumed things were quiet.

I get this group from Eternal September, and got four messages on the
17th, one on each of the 18th and 19th, and none on the 20th.
John

I just went out & back in to sylphfeed and still didn't see my own earlier
post!
Then I hit "Update Summary" and I now can see the "missing" articles.
(which I have actually read)

[Stefan Ram]

Post by Andy Burns
I don't know if E-S is to blame but, as seen from NIN, you've missed 23
posts in the "rise and fall" thread and one in the "monster sgi" thread.

I've been digging through the posts from September 15th (at
least part of that day) up until about an hour ago on five
different news servers.

Managed to track down 30 posts, with only one server coming
up short - two posts MIA (one from the 15th, another from
today).

sep 16 13 posts
sep 17 4 posts
sep 18 1 post
sep 19 1 post
sep 20 no posts
sep 21 1 post

Whipped up some Python scripts just for this little project.
Fair warning though, they're fresh out of the oven and might
have a few bugs, so take my results with a grain of salt!

[Andy Burns]

Post by Stefan Ram
two posts MIA (one from the 15th

I must admit I couldn't see the post referenced by Lars at 12pm on the
15th, so maybe E-S has some posts that NIN doesn't.

[Lars Poulsen]

Post by Lars Poulsen

Post by D
very popular free newsserver, not tor-friendly, requires login, but the
very name of the server & nom de guerre of the sysadmin have
provenance . . .

I haven't seen ANY traffic in alt.folklore.computers since this (6 days
ago). Is it a problem with eternal-september, or is this group dying?

Thank you all for the responses to my query. After I turned the
threading display off on my Thunderbird newsreader, I found a dozen or
so items from the "The Rise And Fall Of Unix" thread, all marked read. I
wonder if I had accidentally killfiled that thread.

I fairly recently came back to USEnet after a multi-year absence; when I
left, I think I was using "rn". Thunderbird's newsreader responds to
many/most of the single-character commands, but I think there should
have been a "?" for "help" to list a one-page explanation of which
single-character commands exist. How do I undo a "k"?

[Andy Burns]

Post by Lars Poulsen
How do I undo a "k"?

Just type "k" again to toggle off.