Discussion:
Earliest Use Of The Term “Unicode”
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-08-16 03:53:17 UTC
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I was watching all the episodes of Patrick McGoohan’s “Danger Man” TV
series some years ago (being too young to have seen them when they first
came out), and came across something interesting in the last one.

If you haven’t seen this series (the first batch of episodes dates from
1959-1960, with some more made a few years later), it’s a secret-agent-
type thing, with a slight twist. McGoohan was considered for the part of
James Bond, but he disapproved of the character. And so he created John
Drake, sort of the anti-James-Bond: he never seduced the women (always
treated them with respect), didn’t even carry a gun (“they’re noisy and
they hurt people”), and instead of blowing up things, he would try to use
his wits and his charm to get out of sticky situations.

Yes, he would fight when he had to; but it took some provocation to get
him to that point.

Anyway, all but two of the episodes were filmed in black and white. (Yes,
they were shot on film, which is why after all this time they still look
good.) A new series was started in 1966, to be shot in colour, but after
just two episodes were made, McGoohan walked away from the whole
production, to work on another idea, that became “The Prisoner”, a
famously enigmatic TV series which continues to baffle and annoy people to
this day. But that’s another story.

Anyway, the last “Danger Man” episode of all was called “Shinda Shima”,
which I think translates as “Death Island”. Our hero Drake goes undercover
to infiltrate an organized crime operation, which hires him as an
electronics expert to help them break the “operations code of the United
Nations”, aka

the “Unicode”.

Of course, he is actually there to break them. And of course, help some
innocent villagers who are being victimized by the gangsters, while he’s
at it.

OK, so that was mainly an excuse for me to tell you something about
Patrick McGoohan ;). But have you come across any other uses of the term
“Unicode”, before its official adoption as the name of the universal
computer character encoding that we have all come to know and love?
Rich Alderson
2024-08-16 22:11:22 UTC
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I was watching all the episodes of Patrick McGoohan's "Danger Man" TV series
some years ago (being too young to have seen them when they first came out),
and came across something interesting in the last one.
[ snip ]

Those in the U.S. will know this program as "Secret Agent", with a famous
Johnny Rivers theme song.
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Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
--Galen
Peter Flass
2024-08-17 23:04:32 UTC
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Post by Rich Alderson
I was watching all the episodes of Patrick McGoohan's "Danger Man" TV series
some years ago (being too young to have seen them when they first came out),
and came across something interesting in the last one.
[ snip ]
Those in the U.S. will know this program as "Secret Agent", with a famous
Johnny Rivers theme song.
They gave him a number, and took away his name.
--
Pete
Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-08-18 00:26:17 UTC
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Post by Peter Flass
Post by Rich Alderson
Those in the U.S. will know this program as "Secret Agent", with a
famous Johnny Rivers theme song.
They gave him a number, and took away his name.
Officially no, that was an entirely different character, not John Drake at
all. Because that would have just been adding insult to injury, to the
team he abandoned at “Danger Man” ...
Don_from_AZ
2024-08-18 02:41:55 UTC
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Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Post by Peter Flass
Post by Rich Alderson
Those in the U.S. will know this program as "Secret Agent", with a
famous Johnny Rivers theme song.
They gave him a number, and took away his name.
Officially no, that was an entirely different character, not John Drake at
all. Because that would have just been adding insult to injury, to the
team he abandoned at “Danger Man” ...
Don't understand this last comment. John Drake was the character's name
in "Secret Agent":

IMDb: Secret Agent (TV Series 1964–1967)
John Drake is a special operative for M9, specializing in security
assignments against any subversive element that threatens world peace.

And presumably the song by Johnny Rivers applies to him.

(first verse and chorus)
There's a man who leads a life of danger
To everyone he meets he stays a stranger
With every move he makes another chance he takes
Odds are he won't live to see tomorrow
[chorus]
Secret agent man
Secret agent man
They've given you a number, and taken away your name

-Don-
Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2024-08-18 03:32:24 UTC
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Post by Don_from_AZ
They've given you a number, and taken away your name
Having never seen the US adaptation, I (mis)understood this phrase to
refer to that _other_ Patrick McGoohan series ...
Bob Martin
2024-08-18 05:24:42 UTC
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Post by Don_from_AZ
Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Post by Peter Flass
Post by Rich Alderson
Those in the U.S. will know this program as "Secret Agent", with a
famous Johnny Rivers theme song.
They gave him a number, and took away his name.
Officially no, that was an entirely different character, not John Drake at
all. Because that would have just been adding insult to injury, to the
team he abandoned at “Danger Man” ...
Don't understand this last comment. John Drake was the character's name
IMDb: Secret Agent (TV Series 1964–1967)
John Drake is a special operative for M9, specializing in security
assignments against any subversive element that threatens world peace.
And presumably the song by Johnny Rivers applies to him.
(first verse and chorus)
There's a man who leads a life of danger
To everyone he meets he stays a stranger
With every move he makes another chance he takes
Odds are he won't live to see tomorrow
[chorus]
Secret agent man
Secret agent man
They've given you a number, and taken away your name
The original (UK) title of the series was "The Prisoner".
Peter Flass
2024-08-18 13:40:38 UTC
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Post by Bob Martin
Post by Don_from_AZ
Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Post by Peter Flass
Post by Rich Alderson
Those in the U.S. will know this program as "Secret Agent", with a
famous Johnny Rivers theme song.
They gave him a number, and took away his name.
Officially no, that was an entirely different character, not John Drake at
all. Because that would have just been adding insult to injury, to the
team he abandoned at “Danger Man” ...
Don't understand this last comment. John Drake was the character's name
IMDb: Secret Agent (TV Series 1964–1967)
John Drake is a special operative for M9, specializing in security
assignments against any subversive element that threatens world peace.
And presumably the song by Johnny Rivers applies to him.
(first verse and chorus)
There's a man who leads a life of danger
To everyone he meets he stays a stranger
With every move he makes another chance he takes
Odds are he won't live to see tomorrow
[chorus]
Secret agent man
Secret agent man
They've given you a number, and taken away your name
The original (UK) title of the series was "The Prisoner".
No, that’s a different show. I never figured it out, but I loved it.
--
Pete
Ahem A Rivet's Shot
2024-08-18 14:10:21 UTC
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On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 06:40:38 -0700
Post by Peter Flass
No, that’s a different show. I never figured it out, but I loved it.
Likewise, I'm sure you can imagine my mild delight when I found
that the second hand door I picked up for my shed bore the number 6. My
kids looked very puzzled as I opened it for the first time declaiming "I am
not a number, I am a free man".
--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
For forms of government let fools contest
Whate're is best administered is best - Alexander Pope
John Ames
2024-08-19 15:00:09 UTC
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On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 00:26:17 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Officially no, that was an entirely different character, not John
Drake at all. Because that would have just been adding insult to
injury, to the team he abandoned at “Danger Man” ...
"Officially," maybe. But there was a whole episode of "The Prisoner"
that was nothing more than a framing story wrapped around an unaired
"Danger Man" episode.

Charlie Gibbs
2024-08-18 23:11:22 UTC
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Post by Peter Flass
Post by Rich Alderson
I was watching all the episodes of Patrick McGoohan's "Danger Man" TV series
some years ago (being too young to have seen them when they first came out),
and came across something interesting in the last one.
[ snip ]
Those in the U.S. will know this program as "Secret Agent", with a famous
Johnny Rivers theme song.
They gave him a number, and took away his name.
I am not a number! I am a free man!
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